Welp, it’s not gonna create itself.

If a God that could’ve created the universe can exist without a creator, and without having been created by an uncreated creator, or a created creator, and without having been caused by an uncaused cause, or a caused cause, then so could the currently existing universe come to existence, exist, or keep existing without a creator, and without having been created by an uncreated creator, or a created creator, and without having been caused by an uncaused cause, or a caused cause.

If nothing can by itself create itself, including the universe, then also even a God cannot create himself. If nothing could exist without having a prior cause to it or to its existence, then also no God could exist without having been caused or created.

If everything requires a creator to exist, then who created the creator? If not everything requires a creator to exist, then God could exist without a creator, and so could the universe. Why would God be the only exception to the rule? Why can’t the universe or anything whatsoever that is inside the universe ever be an exception to the rule as well?

The universe could also come to existence without being created by any God.

This isn’t to say that the universe created itself, but this is to say that whatever that can apply to God can also apply to and be the case with the universe and anything that’s in it or anything whatsoever that could be in the universe.

This does not necessarily mean that the universe instead was created by itself or by an entity that is inside the universe, is not distinct from the universe, is not outside the universe, or is a part of the universe. But if it can happen with God, it can happen with the universe. And if it cannot happen with God, then it can’t happen with the universe as well. But we are certain we exist. Therefore the other assumption that there is a God must be impossible or false, no matter what.

And so if the universe cannot come to existence without a God or a creator entity, then also any God whatsoever cannot come to existence without a God or a creator entity bringing him to existence as well.

If any God could exist since ever, on its own, without having been created or caused by anything else whatsoever, then so could the universe and anything in it exist or have been existing since ever without having been created or caused by anything else outside of or distinct from the universe and whatever that’s in it.

And so the argument that the universe can’t exist without having been caused or created by an uncaused cause or an uncreated creator does not prove the existence of any god whatsoever, because if a God can exist or come to existence without being or having been caused or created, then the universe as well can exist and can come to existence without being or having been caused or created as well.

If any God requires a cause or a creator to come to existence, then the same could be said about the universe and everything that exists or can exist inside this universe as well, no matter what.

If the universe or anything else whatsoever that is inside this universe needs to be created in order to be able to come to existence, then anything that can create any of the above will also require a creator in order to be able to come to existence as well.

If a creator of the universe must have been created by another entity that is uncaused, uncreated, and is other than, separate from, distinct from, and is outside of this acclaimed (or supposed) creator of the universe, then the universe and anything whatsoever that is in it can’t come to existence without having been created by another entity or a creator that is uncaused, uncreated, and is other than, distinct from, and outside of the currently existing universe as well.

If any of such gods that don’t need to be created in order for them to come to existence actually exists, or can actually exist, then so can the currently existing universe and anything whatsoever that exists inside of it come to existence without needing to be created or without needing a creator in order to be able to come to existence.

Any attempt to make a single entity creator of the universe an exception for or from anything whatsoever will eventually and inevitably backfire miserably.