Most of all major theistic religions’ apologists and also all creationists as well claim that things in nature behave the way they do because they follow laws that cannot have existed without some kind of intelligent designer creating all the laws of nature for nature to be what nature is in our currently existing universe (and they always wonder from where did the laws of the universe and all the laws of physics ‘come from’). Laws of nature – including all the laws of physics – are not something that requires to be created or made. All laws of nature – including all the laws of physics – are not something that could have been different if they weren’t what they are in our currently existing universe. It is not that the laws of nature or the laws of the universe – including all the laws of physics – can’t have existed on their own without a creator. It is that the laws of nature and all the laws of the universe and all the laws of everything in this currently existing universe – including all the laws of physics – are not entities themselves, and are not things themselves, and so the laws of nature and all the laws of the universe and all the laws of everything in this currently existing universe – including all the laws of physics – are not things that require to be created (as all major and minor theistic religions claim) like the universe itself if the universe itself required a creator to exist. The laws of nature and all the laws of the universe and all the laws of everything in this currently existing universe – including all the laws of physics – did not come from (somewhere which is claimed by all major and minor theistic religions and all religious apologists and creationists to be) god or else the laws of nature and all the laws of the universe and all the laws of everything in this currently existing universe – including all the laws of physics – must have all come to exist without a god through some other cause(s) or reason(s) that has (or have) nothing to do with any god whatsoever (through somewhere or somehow that has nothing to do with any god whatsoever) and the laws of nature and all the laws of the universe and all the laws of everything in this currently existing universe – including all the laws of physics – must have all come to exist without a god through some other cause(s) or reason(s) that exist(s) without a god existing and without a god making that cause or reason exist (or those causes or reasons exist) as well. The laws of nature and all the laws of the universe and all the laws of everything in this currently existing universe – including all the laws of physics – are all existing because they have to, and because they are, and because the laws of nature and all the laws of the universe and all the laws of everything in this currently existing universe – including all the laws of physics – can never be and can never have been anything else (whatsoever), no matter what (at least in our currently existing universe). They are just what things happened to be. They are not stuff that requires to be made. They are not made up stuff. They are just findings. If they are arguing that these are properties that god has put in the stuff he created, then this is another topic. When we speak of things like Gravity, it isn’t something that God has put in the contents of the universe, it is something that happens to the contents of the universe. If god is the one that has made gravity happen, with certain laws, then gravity would be something that is dependent upon something that god does on a regular basis. If god is making gravity happen all the time, where is what god does to make gravity happen? If gravity is happening because of god, then this is direct interference from god in the universe, and this should be detectable, even if we cannot detect it yet. This is something that is distinct from the laws of gravity. God can create gravity itself, but god cannot create the laws of gravity because if he did, it means that gravity will happen and behave on its own whether god is doing something to make gravity happen or not, and gravity will happen and behave the way it does according to the laws of gravity whether god exists or god doesn’t exist. The laws mean god cannot make gravity happen or behave without obeying these laws, or while using other laws. God will be bound by the laws of gravity, and if this is the case, then god cannot make gravity happen or behave in any way outside of these laws or without following these laws of gravity. The laws of gravity do not make gravity happen, they just describe the fact or natural phenomenon of gravity, they do not set gravity in motion, they do not operate gravity, they do not turn gravity on, and they do not make gravity happen. They just show us how gravity happens. To create laws for something is to restrict its happening to a certain way, not to make that thing exist or happen according to whatever god wants, unless what god wants is to restrict what he can actually reach through his creation of gravity, that is, unless god wants to limit what he can accomplish through the gravity that he has created, and make the possibilities of what God can achieve through gravity lesser and restricted to the gravity laws he created. If god directly makes gravity happen, then gravity will not be following any laws of physics, but instead will be following the will of god, and will be possible to behave in ways that do not follow any particular set of laws. God would do whatever he wants with the force of gravity, apply it anywhere on anything the way he wants without any of this being possible to be described by any set of laws. If god created laws, it would mean that god is restricting his abilities for no reason other than to mislead scientists who value evidence, or it would mean that gravity would do everything it does with or without god existing in the first place, which would mean that god would have no authority or control over gravity to the extent that god would not be able to prevent gravity from leading to something that god himself does not want to happen. Laws are not programming that makes the universe works the way it works. Laws are just a description of how the universe works, without these laws – of physics or any laws – making the universe work the way the universe works and without these laws doing anything to the universe to make the universe do anything and without these laws make the universe reach anything because the laws of the universe told the universe to reach that outcome, and without these laws making the universe do anything because the laws of the universe told the universe to do this thing whatever this thing is, and without the laws of the universe forcing the universe to do anything because the laws of the universe told the universe to do so. Laws are just a description of what happens, not the author of what happens. Why would the existence of the possibility to reach the description of what happens be evidence for the existence of a creator of the universe?